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#31021 WHO are moderators here?

Posted by RiserMiser on 27 June 2016 - 12:15 AM

With all due respect, I think you don't get replies because your posts are all over the place. There's not much traffic on the site to begin with, so I wouldn't take it too personally.


#30403 fishing report

Posted by catskilljohn on 31 August 2015 - 02:39 AM

I took the long way around and stopped at the B-kill Friday night around 11:30 to check the water temps. 66* is a little too warm for me to fish with a clear conscience so the plan was upper Willow instead. Both need water bad, but I would rather fish low water than warm and the Willow typically stays cooler up above LM.

I saw few mayflies, a couple sulphurs, a small group of trico spinners and a tiny rusty spinner with bright yellow eggs that was a little too high and fast for me to capture and photograph. Lots of tan caddis but as usual, I didn't see one fish take anything on top. They certainly weren't taking anything I floated over them on top.
 
I nymphed up a few of keeper size, nothing bigger than 12", and got a handful of smaller 8"ers, both browns and bows. Most of the good fish were in fast riffled water and tiny highly oxygenated plunge pools, but I got a couple in "normal" runs, though everything is very shallow.

Anyway, I left my camera at home and used my phone this time, at least its easier to load up pictures here, though I hope the size works out. CJ

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#31042 Willow - Wednesday-6/29

Posted by ews on 01 July 2016 - 10:58 PM

Intented to go to the WB,but the heavy t-storms turned it to high to fish and murky ,but raised and brought water temps down on the Willow. It was mostly cloudy and Water temps during the day stayed below 67. Water was discolored in the deeper sections,but fish able. Caught quite a few stockers on a small #20 brown beetle and a black ant. At dark-8:45,some larger fish started working in the riffles and a few Potamantus came off. Caught three nice 14"/15" Browns on a sulpher emerger(anticipated a hatch that didn't materialize) and a golden drake sparkle dun. A fun day. Hopefully Friday's rain will keep water temps down for the weekend


#30346 Good News!

Posted by catskilljohn on 03 August 2015 - 11:17 PM

Just heard this...


The turbid discharge downstream of the dam has been completely and successfully ended.
After consulting with engineers from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, DEP has decided to return Cannonsville Reservoir to normal operations.

 

Good news for sure.   CJ




#31528 Vortex Feeding Trout

Posted by catskilljohn on 30 July 2017 - 11:43 PM

I have hooked a few trout on top that I would say took the fly as you described, but I was in the vicinity of fast water and never heard it.
I did however see the fly simply vanish into a hole in the water, one I landed(18") and the other straightened the hook.
Both times i am happy to say resulted in a solid hookup.
I would love to see a video though😉 CJ


#30819 Willow/Beaverkill-5/23

Posted by ews on 24 May 2016 - 01:41 PM

Great to see some rising trout after a slow period. Partly cloudy and Warm-75,water temps -60, A # 16 Rusty Spinner and a#16 floating sulphur nymph generally seemed to work best in late morning/early afternoon if fish were working.Tried nymphing with a march brown and iso when no trout were active-no luck.Around 8 pm saw sparse sulphur activity on the Willow,and took fish on a sulpher emerger. All in all a fun day,landed 8 or 9 ,some stockers a several in the 14"to16" range. Didn't see many March Browns and best activity was on the Willow.


#30746 Upper D

Posted by RiserMiser on 16 May 2016 - 01:39 AM

Fished Sunday through Thursday last week.

Monday we fought the wind and only a few fish. Cornutas were plenty but few fish rising. What few fish were rising completely stopped after 6. No spinner fall.

Tuesday and Wednesday were both great days and we landed some nice fish. Had afternoon sporadic rising both days to Hendricksons and spinners. The evenings both brought spinner falls and Tuesday night was exceptional from 6pm till dark. Water was boiling. Rapid casts were the order of the night. Wed night didn't turn on until around 7 and it was not as intense as the previous night but we still did fairly well.

Thursday we fished from 7am till noon and it was dead as expected. We only managed one nice fish on the way out on a Hendrickson.

Slime was a pain in the @$$ everyday except Monday.


#30704 Callicoon Creek 04-30-2016

Posted by BEAVER on 01 May 2016 - 11:16 AM

Tried fishing the Willow and a guide with a client cut me off so I went to Callicoon. Fished for about 1.5hr.

 

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#30570 After watching beaver footage here

Posted by PatrickS on 22 March 2016 - 12:51 PM

The title of this thread could easily be misconstrued...

 

If you had that sort of mind.




#30292 The opposite of Catskill style

Posted by catskilljohn on 08 July 2015 - 11:15 PM

These particular ones are made by TMC, they are #103BL's-DE,X fine wire, wide gap, black. Everyone is making the hell out of these lately, Hanak, Umpqua, TMC, Dohiku, Partridge, etc. There are also a bunch of "tier grade" hooks made in the same style by others but I would recommend buying the big name hooks. The steel is better, they have a better shape and the points are well thought out. They are not cheap at $10.00 per 25, but when you factor in that the hook is your last piece of hardware that is letting you land the fish, having a quality item on there is nice!

Though they are all totally barbless, the shape of the bend and point not only penetrates better, but they hold like you wouldn't believe as long as you don't give the fish any slack.  If you drop the rod tip its like a 50/50 chance he will be off when you lift it up again.  On the plus side, when you net the fish and he shakes a little, the fly is out already. Something about the shape of the point makes them self ejecting, yet they hold like crazy with tension.  You also have to be careful handling them, they are as sharp as hypodermic needles. 

 

I started using them last year and tried almost every manufacturers hooks. I would say I like these and the Hanak's best, but some manufacturers have shapes I like better for certain flies so I will use other brands too. I stopped using the cheap ones after touching bottom, checking the fly and seeing the point broken off.  CJ




#30274 4th of July report

Posted by catskilljohn on 06 July 2015 - 03:40 AM

Woke up to steady rain Saturday morning at the house. The ride up Friday night looked great, I didn't even hear it was going to rain.

Took a ride to my little haunt, rain falling pretty good at 5:00am, and it appeared the stream was starting to go off color. Nymphed up a half dozen smallish browns, and one 14"er then a 15"er. All wild fish except for one chunky stocked brown that was 13. The rain never stopped while I was out, and I finished up at 8:30, then headed home. Stream was a little high, but 55*...very cold for July!

Sunday was a much nicer day, cloudy in the am but the sun came out by 7:00 and it started warming up nice. I went to a different beat way upstream, much smaller water but even colder, and after catching a half dozen average sized browns I came upon an old log dam, and by the looks of it and the fieldstone mill foundation next to it I bet its 150 years old. Normally the water here is low enough and the dam rickety enough that the stream flows through it rather than over it but the rain brought it up enough to where it was spilling over.

Behind the logs the spilling water created a roiling, bubbly canopy on the surface of the stream. I dropped a green caddis larva into the foam, and as it drifted out a huge trout form followed it, inhaled it and when I set, she took off downstream in a hurry. Slipping and tripping to keep up and applying heavy pressure I finally got behind her and guided it onto a sandbar. 22", just a hair shorter than the big male from a few weeks ago. The remarkable thing about this one though, the water is tiny up there...I just don't know where they hide in low flows?

However she does it...here she is,
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15"er
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A feisty one...
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Water is high and cold everywhere, we may be good most of the month even with little rain falling in the next few weeks. CJ


#30180 Fathers Day 2015

Posted by lpette on 23 June 2015 - 01:37 PM

I finally got up to the Catskills with my son this year after a couple years of bad weather and schedule conflicts. We had a nice trip. We fished Friday night and Saturday for trout and Sunday morning in a lake for bass and pickerel.

 

We fished the East Branch Friday night after a few slices at Raimondo's and managed one feisty brown in the high off color water. We had to leave the river early due to wader failure. On Saturday we fished a spot on the East that produced nothing before we fished the Beaverkill with some drys and had a nice brown on a yellow drake.

 

Later that evening we went back to the East Branch and managed another nice brown on a black marabou leech. My son loves to catch LMB and pickerel so we also fished a lake and caught bass and  many pickerel on frog patterns and a purple fly my son tied that the pickerel could not resist. Leif fished a buzz bait as well and had many explosive strikes.

 

We saw very few bugs. A few yellow drakes, some caddis in the evening along with some sulfurs and BWO's. We saw some fish rising but not consistent and very sporadic.

 

We had a great time and it was nice to get away with my son.  We saw some big snapping turtles, porcupines, eagles and enjoyed the peace and quiet.

 

 

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#30122 Weird forum

Posted by Fly Guy on 15 June 2015 - 09:24 PM

Rookie, your last comment was your best , or only ,  that was worthy. To admit that there are in fact gentlemen on this forum must have been very humbling to you . I hope you find some peace and tranquility on your journey in life and fishing  ( see I said fishing on a fishing forum )  To blast someone for where they come from , well that's just wrong . I know because I also felt that way on the Salmon River, NY , but I admit to being wrong and have accepted the truth , I had no more rights to the water than anyone else did .  We all come together to fish in the Catskills for so many varied reasons, but we all come to enjoy the beauty that IS the Catskills , and the fact that we are all fisherman , mostly fly fisherman, makes us brothers of sorts, and not all brothers get along. I'm starting to sound like a "River Runs Through It " , so I digress . Limestone , I am totally in your camp, matter of fact I also am from upstate NY, but now reside in PA . You remember "Vad's " fly shop in Syracuse ?  I guess now that I have left NY I no longer am welcome to fish NY waters ? Well I have fished the Beaverkill for over 40 years , and every year , and I must say that I personally feel welcome every time I slip into her waters . I agree with the Limestoner in regards to the smart phone , internet craze. We ( now, old guys ) learned how to fish from time spent on the water . With instant gratification via the interweb, all things "appear " to be obtainable with the click of  a mouse. No real  fly fisherman was born on the internet , thank God. Years of time on the water, bending ears at local TU gatherings, reading the classics ,sharing with others, failing, researching everything fly related, experiencing with an open mind, these are the building blocks to a competent fly fisherman. There are no short cuts in this pursuit , and that's what makes it what it can be  , a life long passion, that is never mastered, but can be done well. It is not everyones cup of tea , contrary to "The Movie" , It is OK to put the fly rod down and walk away, it is good to know what you enjoy and want out of your personal free time. some folks were born to hit a little white ball and follow it for hours, to each his or hers own.

Leif, I enjoy your ties, keep up the good work. I also have been known to spin up a few, drop a line any time . I will not be the one dressed like "Joe Orvis" not that there's anything wrong with that, matter of fact I almost worked there in Vermont some 30 years ago , and do know TR . A big steelie broke an Orvis rod I owned in half many moons ago , and I have never gone back . 

The site is what it is . Hope they keep it up but if you ever want some real entertainment , there is nothing that comes close to the real thing 

Just stop down to Catskill Flies and ask Dennis what he thinks about the Chinese, or ask him anything for that matter !!!

Guess I better leave a fish report, went in last week in May. Caught brown trout on the Beaverkill, Willow, East Br. and West Br. Biggest fish 19 inches , caught on a March Brown emerger , which I personally tied after reading books like "Selective Trout" , "Ring Of The Rise" "Hatch's" , " Rising Trout", " Mayflies " , " Fishless Days , Angling Nights ", and after 40 years of turning over rocks and keeping my ears wide open , you get the picture




#30025 Life's oldest Question (or close to it):

Posted by Limestoner on 28 May 2015 - 08:03 PM

Well, the dream stream in Colorado can be any of a number  - used to be the south platte (for the Denver area folks) or the Fryingpan, or whatever.  But to the topic of 'old time' inns and hotels, (1) the quickway was the death knell for a number of them, as NYC guys who used to come up for a few days and stay at the Antrim and now can blast from the city and back in a daytrip - no need to stay overnight. (2) Today, there really aren't very many dedicated flyfishermen anymore, guys for whom fishing is a true passion and their only real leisure pursuit.  Fishing has become an activity, like tennis, the beach, shopping, movies - something to do, but certainly not a passion.  Hotels and Inns up there depended on the guys who, during the season, were up there every chance they got - and who had the discretionary income to be able to afford staying there.  Today, a guy may go 1 or 2 time during the season - and an innkeeper isn't going to stay in business very long without regulars who are there without fail during May - September.   Look at the guys at the west branch next time you're there; generally young (20's - early 40's), outfitted from head to toe in either Orvis everything, or Simms and Sage everything.  Some of them are great casters; few know how to fish,  But learning how to fish takes time and dedication, and modern man is too busy with multiple interests and hobbies/activities to be able to allocate the time needed to really learn - or really appreciate the outdoors and nature. They want to catch fish (like all of us), maybe take a few selfies with their smart phones to message back to their Facebook friends - but unlike a true fisherman, who fishes for the love of being outdoors in nature -  that's it.  No fish? Let's get the hell out of here and go do something else.

 

I was a kid when I first went into the Antrim - at 16, was totally out of place amid a crowd of old guys (so they seemed at the time, 50 years later, I'm one of them), and everyone was having a good time, all seem to know each other, the day was being discussed, plans were being made for tomorrow, but aside from the occasional joke being told, the talk as far as I could tell was fishing.  A guy next to me bought me a coke, I thanked him, he asked me a couple of questions, where I was from, how I did today, and made a couple of suggestions where I might try tomorrow.  I thanked him again, he turned back to his friends - it was the only time I was in the Antrim, and it wasn't until much later that I realized it was Walt Dette who took the time to talk with a kid who loved flyfishing but was a long way from being any good at it.  Now, 51 years later, I'm still not a great flyfisherman, but I can generally manage a fish or two when I go out - and that's plenty.  The real joy is just being on the water, doing what I love.  This isn't a sport, as some call it, it's a passion; you either have it or you don't; and most guys today that I see on the water today are of the latter variety.  Not their fault, they have careers, wives, kids, and active social lives which includes fishing, but it's only one of several social activities they engage in.

 

Don't know why I'm rambling on like this, one of the privileges of age and a wandering mind I guess.




#29728 Any new Esopus reports lately ?

Posted by PatrickS on 08 November 2014 - 11:21 PM

Last trip over, to close up the house and get a last couple of whacks in at the Esopus.

 

Thursday, Nov. 6 — Cold, drizzly, semi-miserable. Thinking in terms of chucking big streamers, I took out a gigantic rod, a 12.5 ft 8 weight Cabelas switch rod I bought primarily for chucking bass bugs around from a pontoon boat. And it worked fine for streamers, except the fish weren't terribly interested.

 

Around noon I noticed fish sipping at something. I figured small olives. So I wound up using this enormous rod with a long leader, 6X fluoro tippet, to drop a size 22 parachute olive in there. I had to stand about a quarter mile away, and landing the fish was another problem. This was along Plank Road, where the stuffed animal shrine has been modified. Does anybody have any idea what on earth this is about?

 

Friday was cold, drizzly, and very windy, making it completely miserable. Fished behind the Emerson in that deep pool, clambering around on the rip rap and catching brown after brown on the little olives again. Problem this time was the wind blowing the line around, creating the "Fleeing Olive" illusion so beloved of our forefathers. Damned if they didn't chase it though.

 

I wish I could have stayed today, which was sunny and calm, but I had urgent business at home. So that's it for the Catskills this year. It was a good one.

 

Friday, Nov. 7, above Portal, near Shandaken town hall

 

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Thursday, Nov. 6, Plank Road

 

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Stuffed animals. This is getting into "Blair Witch" territory

 

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#29387 Esopus report

Posted by JB on 21 May 2014 - 02:25 AM

" Four flies and seven trout ago, our fly fishers brought forth in these Catskills a new fishing scheme, conceived near Liberty, N.Y.  and dedicated to the proposition that all fly fishers are created equal. Now we are engaged in Catch and Release........"   well,  you know the rest.

 

 

JB  :cool: 




#26695 Does it count?

Posted by lpette on 20 September 2011 - 09:56 PM

assuming the fish were caught legally, why wouldn't they 'count'?

tele.


I don't know. Maybe I am wrong. I just feel using a fly requires a little more effort. Anyone can cast a spinning rod, buy a spinner or other lure and catch a trout.

I say give the fish a chance and make it more sporting. Might sound crazy, but I think they deserve a little more respect. To me, it just doesn't seem right to catch them like that.

I feel the same way about using live bait for other species like stripers, ect. Really not much of a challenge.

Fished today in the surf using a fly rod for striped bass. Didn't catch any (others did) but I still enjoyed and when I do get one, I know it was on a fly I tied and the fish had a chance.

"Just cause you got the power, don't mean you got the right" (Lemmy Kilminster)

Leif


#23630 Driftboat fiends---oops -friends

Posted by nytroutbum on 28 July 2010 - 03:51 AM

JW, I completely agree. I've been fishing the WB and other parts of the system for almost forty years. I'm still wading and can honestly say that the greatest negative change in my enjoyment of a day on the river has to do with the ever increasing numbers of drift fishers. The only other bad behavior I might mention is drifters (in full size boats; guides and others) choosing to go down side channels so narrow that that they pretty much span the channel width when their boat is sideways. It would be laughable if it wasn't so annoying. Sometimes I retreat to these areas to try to avoid boats and disturbances, but these days even that sort of area offers no refuge. It's totally ludicrous when the WB is running less than 600cfs. It's a wonderful wading river, at least it used to be.


#21826 Why Stock

Posted by tele-caster on 05 May 2010 - 04:29 PM

I might be in the minority here, but I think the DEC does a pretty good job managing the BK system, especially for flyfishermen … lets start with public access - you’ve got angler parking, PFR access including easements through private land, and miles upon miles of open water from the forest preserves in the headwaters, all the way to the pool @ jaws … just for C&R / FF guys, there are 2 prime sections on the BK and one on the WW – all good water … remember that the catch & keep folks with spinning gear pay the same license fees as anyone else, and these areas are closed to them … and slobs are slobs, regardless of the gear they use - I probably pickup and carry out as much tangled 6X tippet streamside, as I do wormcans, btw …

people’s gripe about stocking and catch & keep, is beyond me … remember that those big smart holdovers were once freshly stocked dinks … despite the holdovers, the BK system is marginal trout water year-round, and without stocking, the fishing would be likewise, marginal … personally, I’d rather see fish quickly killed by fishermen in june, than slowly killed by high water temperatures in august … unless enough of the system can provide cold water to support trout year round, fish will not reproduce or holdover in good numbers … the BK thermal refuge is a great start - I applaud the DEC for establishing this …

while holdovers and some wild fish do exist, to provide good fishing, the system relies on stocking … you can call it ‘supplementary’ stocking if you want, but I believe stocked fish are the lifesblood of the beaverkill today … it is as much an artificial manmade arrangement as the east & west branches of the delaware, which would not exist as trout fisheries without the benefit of bottom release from the reservoirs … ofcourse, the delaware system also benefits form the protected tributaries that lie on the much maligned NYC / DEP watershed land – also open to fishing, btw …

to get natural reproduction going in the BK system would take a concerted effort to protect the headwaters and spawning tributaries - many or most of which are on private land, and real efforts to limit development around and degradation of, the resource … if the headwaters and tribs run cold and steady year-round, the main river will too … but we’re talking coordination with local government, road department, landowners and businesses … can it happen? sure – the snake river in the area of jackson hole is managed as a true wild trout fishery … the spawning tribs, and entire swaths of public land are closed to fishing while the cutts are on their redds … imagine shutting down fishing in trout brook, the upper BK and WW, monguap creek and fir brook – probably half of sullivan county … until enough streamborn fish can drop down from those headwaters and tribs, can survive the summer ( and winter ) in the main BK and return for spawning, a thriving wild fish population in the BK is just not realistic … I would love to see the BK system managed as a wild fishery, but that’s not gonna happen in my lifetime …

I think the weekend crowds are some indication of the success of the DEC’s management of the BK, based on stocking … I dislike crowded water as much – probably more – than most fishermen … I drive, scout and hike if that’s what it takes to get away from the masses … I’ve never set foot in cairns … but, even with the number of people on the water last weekend, I found a nice pool to myself … you’re never gonna please all the people all of the time … but, based on the number of fishermen – especially flyfishermen - on the water this weekend, the DEC must be doing something right …

finally, when you consider that brown & rainbow trout are exotic non-native species, the whole rationale for a state agency like the DEC managing a natural resource within its jurisdiction, by rearing and stocking non-native fish that compete with native brook trout, is an awful strange thing to think about … so, if you’re really against stocking, be careful what you wish for … tele


#21161 Old Man And The Trout

Posted by upinjewett on 16 April 2010 - 01:17 PM

Hit Schoharie Creek yesterday morning, to hit the very few places that I know that are somewhat close to pull offs, that often hold fish. I'm in the hurry up and relax, and fish mode, because I know the tank trucks are on the way and I want to hit these spots before they are stocked. So I pull up to a good spot and look over and there is an elderly gentleman tossing spinners. I decide to just sit in the car and nurse my coffee and watch for a bit. He is working his way toward a big rock where a large trout emerged and broke me off last fall. He throws the spinner right by the rock and sure enough - BAM - a slashing strike !! This thing is enormous, especially by Schoharie Creek standards. He plays the fish nicely but seems to be having a little trouble landing it, so I scramble down to see if he wants some help, but he's proud and declines. When the fish comes out of the water, it's easily in the 22" or better range. I give him the thumbs up and pops is beaming from ear to ear. Even though I knew better, I hoped for a second he might return it, but no, he told me he only keeps them now and then, and this one would be a great dinner for him and his wife tonight and he could hardly wait to show her. Call me sentimental if you want, but as much as I hate to see larger fish taken out, this was one time where it all seemed OK.