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Posted 12 December 2006 - 11:45 PM

Does anyone have good recipe for an old fashioned wet fly call "The Catskill"? A photo would be really helpful as well!

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#2 catskilljohn

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 03:10 AM

From Bergmans book...
tail, mandarin [wood duck]
body, orange floss, palmered with brown hackle
wing, Mandarin [wood duck]
This is a great pattern. Easy tye also. CJ

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:53 AM

Catskilljohn - thanks very much. Palmered brown hackle - I saw a photo of the Catskill fly that gadabout sent me - looks like dry-fly hackle rather than hen. Would you agree?

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:59 PM

I have seen both stiff and soft palmered versions, I prefer the softer hackle. If your going to truly fish it wet, a soft hen hackle will aid in the sinking of the fly. With stiffer hackle, you would have to soak it, and false casting would dry it some and keep it on top for a few drifts. It works great dry though! CJ

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 12:00 AM

The "Catskill" pattern is listed in Dette book twice. Both have the same recipe (dry flies and are on pgs 235 & 246):

"Orange body;
Brown Speckled Tail;
Brown Hackle, Palmered;
Tan Speckled Wings;
Gold Egg Sac"

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I wonder if the barbs for the tail and wings are from different types of ducks or just that some were lighter than the other?

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 12:27 AM

Allan,
I wonder that also. Did he use bronze mallard for the tail, and wood duck for the wing? Thats the fun stuff this hobby throws at you all the time :D CJ

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 01:42 AM

Okay here we go:

Louis S. Darling, creator of this fly, was a well-known American fisherman in the early 1900s.
He was a member of the Angler's Club of New York as early as 1906. He participated in numereous casting competitions with creditable showings. In 1916, he was National Dry Fly Casting Champion.
The Catskill combines the outstanding features of the Cahill and the Oak Fly, the wings of the former and the body of the later. Mr. Darling affirmed that, " wood duck wings and orange body will take trout anywhere."
The Catskill is tied:
Tail: Mallard breast dyed orange or golden pheasant tippet.
Body: Orange, with gold rib.
Wing: Lemon wood duck or mallard breast dyed orange.
Hackle: Brown or light brown.
from Fly Patterns and Their Origins by Harold Hinsdill Smedley

( the above is from another web-site and credited to Smedley's book, However, the book does not list the fly or the dessing given above. The info on Mr. Darling and the mention of his "Catskill" Fly is found under the listing for the "Darling's Fancy" fly.)


McClane's Encyclopedia shows a Catskill tied by Elsie Darbee as follows:
Tail: Wood Duck
Body: Orange (text lists brown, but photo clearly shows orange)
Hackle: Brown Palmered
Wings: Wood Duck
(I believe this is also the way Bergman lists it)

Nolls Guide:
Tail: none
Body: Orange
Hackle: Brown Palmered
Wings: Wood Duck

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I tie it this way as a dry

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 07:32 PM

Here's a wet fly version:

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 09:32 PM

A big thank you to everyone - you have all been more than helpful!

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:32 AM

Bobpetti,
Smokin' fly buddy, real nice! CJ

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Posted 07 October 2018 - 01:04 AM

Great pattern for the Willowemoc




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