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#31528 Vortex Feeding Trout

Posted by catskilljohn on 30 July 2017 - 11:43 PM

I have hooked a few trout on top that I would say took the fly as you described, but I was in the vicinity of fast water and never heard it.
I did however see the fly simply vanish into a hole in the water, one I landed(18") and the other straightened the hook.
Both times i am happy to say resulted in a solid hookup.
I would love to see a video though😉 CJ

#31525 Vortex Feeding Trout

Posted by catskilljohn on 30 July 2017 - 05:14 PM

Obviously I wasn't implying you should invent a way to fish without a leader, simply offering a possible scenario to why your not sticking these "beasts".

They get that way (big) cause they have found every way to evade capture. If it was easy to catch them, there would be a whole lot less of them.


#31521 Vortex Feeding Trout

Posted by catskilljohn on 30 July 2017 - 01:04 PM

It's possible that since the fly is tethered to a leader it doesn't have the "freeness" to actually make it all the way into the trouts mouth.
You sound convinced that these fish have figured out that they can be a significant distance below the surface and coupled with their personal gill ability can pull a bug under and into their mouth without being at the surface.
If they have it figured out this close, and accurately, it would work with any bug not attached to a leader, but a leader would inhibit the flys movement maybe enough to not make it all the way down the vortex.
Just speculating here...I do all my fishing with nymphs, and don't deal with the same frustrations you guys do. I just don't see all the subsurface mistakes I make, and I'm happy like that😎 CJ

#31174 Where can I get accurate rainfall amounts?

Posted by catskilljohn on 22 August 2016 - 05:30 PM

Just realized it was not Alex who asked!

#31151 Main stem warmest in years, What's the impact?

Posted by catskilljohn on 15 August 2016 - 02:37 AM

To add to this, fishing the same streams as I have in the past, this year has been the only one since 06 that the number of bigger trout (over 20") are very scarce. I recently saw what looked like an over 20" brown in a deep pool, but in previous years I saw many, and caught at least 1 every year. The other curious thing is, every big trout was caught either in July or August, which could prove that they do in fact move around when the big river gets warm. This year I'm a few inches short of that magic 20" for my season best, but I'm staying hopeful! CJ

#31150 Main stem warmest in years, What's the impact?

Posted by catskilljohn on 15 August 2016 - 02:37 AM

They also have a number of colder tribs to move into both up and down the big river. I couldnt tell you the impact on the mainstem from 12-13 but looking back in my log I caught big Browns in the tribs both years. Trout, like all wild things find a way when conditions go bad, what I fear more than warm water is low water, as it seems the predators are getting more numerous than the fish with every passing year. CJ

#30842 West Branch 05-27

Posted by catskilljohn on 28 May 2016 - 01:37 PM

mikgaes said...
"I don't see this problem mentioned on any of the internet river reports."

I did, and they are looking forward to either rain or a cold water release to clean it up some.

That slime is a big downer for sure. CJ

#30835 fluorocarbon tippet

Posted by catskilljohn on 27 May 2016 - 10:41 PM

I'm in the same mindset as wingnut...Trouthunter is the best.  I was shocked at the strength of the 5X, compared to what I was using before [which was everything] and I stopped even fishing with the 4X as I feel like if it gets caught on the bottom I not able to break it off.


For nymphing I almost always use 5.5X or 6X, regardless of fly size. #6 or #22's, I haven't broken off a fly in a trout in I cant remember when, bent a few hooks but no breakoffs. 


idryfly said it...the terminal tackle is what you spend on, I would rather use good stuff there and fish with a switch cut from the side of the stream than a high end rod/reel and junk tippet and hooks.  CJ  

#30651 Questions about our Traditional Flys

Posted by catskilljohn on 17 April 2016 - 10:06 PM

To answer your question, we use wood duck because its a traditional material for wings. And tails. Guys love wood duck flank, love that its a classic material and love using it.  Honestly, there are so many more practical materials for wings, the poly, zelon,or foam that are way more durable, waterproof and some even keep a fly from ever sinking.  They don't however make a Hendrickson look very traditional, practical yes but traditional no. So for the guys who love a fly that looks like it did in 1930, its worth the price and effort to acquire WD flank, urine burned fox, spade feathers, old hooks, etc.   CJ 

#30481 Late season trip to Delaware

Posted by catskilljohn on 20 October 2015 - 02:14 AM

TomLangan said...

For what it's worth, I think 2015 was the toughest year in a long time to encounter and fish a good hatch with fish responding in the region.


I agree with this sentiment, this year was tougher for me too.  I don't know if it was bad timing, lackluster conditions or any of the number of things that occur to make outings difficult, but looking back I can recall 3, maybe 4 days on the water where the fish were willing, you didn't have to work real hard and the catching was easy.  I can recall a bunch of days where I worked real hard, tramped around half the day and hooked up way less then I would have years before. 


I'm not saying it should be easy always, that would grow old, but I guess I [we?] got a little spoiled the past 4-5 years. 


For me now, its fly tying, rod making and waiting for the opener again!   CJ        

#30448 Esopus

Posted by catskilljohn on 16 September 2015 - 02:44 AM

I wish I did not read it. I feel terrible for that girl's father.

Same here...I just cant imagine that scene.

One thing to take away from tragedy's like this, be careful out there. Water is a bitch sometimes, and those rocks are hard as hell. I for one purposely only buy and wear waist high waders to keep me from doing stupid wading antics, which in the past almost drowned me more than once. Nothing wakes you up like a good near death experience. CJ

#30403 fishing report

Posted by catskilljohn on 31 August 2015 - 02:39 AM

I took the long way around and stopped at the B-kill Friday night around 11:30 to check the water temps. 66* is a little too warm for me to fish with a clear conscience so the plan was upper Willow instead. Both need water bad, but I would rather fish low water than warm and the Willow typically stays cooler up above LM.

I saw few mayflies, a couple sulphurs, a small group of trico spinners and a tiny rusty spinner with bright yellow eggs that was a little too high and fast for me to capture and photograph. Lots of tan caddis but as usual, I didn't see one fish take anything on top. They certainly weren't taking anything I floated over them on top.
I nymphed up a few of keeper size, nothing bigger than 12", and got a handful of smaller 8"ers, both browns and bows. Most of the good fish were in fast riffled water and tiny highly oxygenated plunge pools, but I got a couple in "normal" runs, though everything is very shallow.

Anyway, I left my camera at home and used my phone this time, at least its easier to load up pictures here, though I hope the size works out. CJ

edit...the pics are small, but you get the idea.

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#30365 Fir Brook Small Brookies

Posted by catskilljohn on 10 August 2015 - 02:17 AM

There is a plentitude of small Brookies throughout that luckily were aggressively feeding when I was there.

Great post...I used to fish behind Rich Bradley's house and they were always taking flies with enthusiasm! You couldn't drift a dry fly through there without at least getting a splash at the fly.

Jewels is right...brookies are so precious. CJ

#30346 Good News!

Posted by catskilljohn on 03 August 2015 - 11:17 PM

Just heard this...

The turbid discharge downstream of the dam has been completely and successfully ended.
After consulting with engineers from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, DEP has decided to return Cannonsville Reservoir to normal operations.


Good news for sure.   CJ

#30338 The Adams

Posted by catskilljohn on 31 July 2015 - 03:52 AM

Here's an offshoot in a more classic style, the Delaware Adams.
Unless the Catskills gets some rain soon, the big freestones wont have safe enough temps this weekend.  I have a few places where the water is always cold although its a bit of a workout getting there.
Flies like this, the Bivisible and the Katterman, all with palmered bodies are tailor made for those tiny cold brooks.


Mustad 94833's, 12,14 and 16, all with "Dette wool" bodies. CJ